XMR Shares vanished.

http://poolmining.userecho.com/forums/1-general/topics/340-vert-phantom-shares/

See me last reply.

That doesn't answer my question. I know that it was displaying my shares incorrectly as I had not mined Millions but I have mined a hell of a lot more than zero.

Why have I lost everything?

If you've been on- and off-mining your shares fell out of the window.

Fuck mining on this shit pool then if you think that is acceptable .... what a shitty attitude too.

Yeah fuck this attitude. I guess that's why I've bailed out multiple miners from own pocket even though everything went correctly. If you want quick and easy money join one of the mega pools with a sub-15 minute PPLNS window and then complain to them about not getting a payment. Oh wait you can't, they don't have any support at all.

Well it isn't anything i have done is it. .... Had thousands of share now have zero.  Your reply was "they fell out the window" Yes attitude, how would anyone consider that good support?

It isn't anything I have done either. I'm not the support guy here. I'm responsible for everything and only human.

I didn't claim it was anything you had done but your response indicated that losing shares is normal here. Do you think that is acceptable. I don't even care about the shares as it was fuck all but if that is how this pool operates with no attempt to resolve an issue do you really expect people to stick around for long ?

Are you trying to tell me your system doesn't keep logs of which shares have been allocated to which wallet ?

Of course we do. But we did NOT account for shares being dropped because they lie outside of the PPLNS window before the last Monero block was found.

Finally you are actually answering my original question. So this will happen every block that is found or no?

If it will happen that shares not meeting the PPLNS Window will get dropped? Of course it will. It's an integral part of the whole system and works the same way on all PPLNS pools. If you want to get paid for every share, PPLNS is not for you. Then you'd be much better off mining at a PPS pool - at much higher pool fees of course.

Never ever lost shares on any other mining pool . Only this one.

You are probably misinterpreting "loosing" shares. The loss of shares is not a bug, it's an integral part of PPLNS payouts where, if the effort to find a block exceeds 100%, any shares outside of the 100% share window get silently dropped. This like the pool operator told you, applies to all PPLNS pools. These are shares early in the stack. See the red part of Round 5 in the FAQ. And this is what has likely happened to you for on and off mining. The last XMR block had an effort of 166%, which means that shares outside of the 100% got silently dropped and were not considered for reward calculation. Unfortunately for you, these were your shares and it is absolutely fair. PPLNS on smaller pools is not really for on and off miners as the variance of effort can hit their rewards, and on the contrary rewards loyal miners that stick around consistently. As an on and off miner, you should really stick to a large pool, where PPLNS does not really play a role as blocks come in almost every other minute, or find a small pool that runs on PPS scheme, where you will be paid for every share, likely at a higher fee though.

Hmmm...

I´m an absolute Newbie in mining - but I´m writing Software since 37 years... since over 50 years I have success with "no risk - no fun" in my life. PPLNS system here represents this in a perfect style. I´m mining LTC here in a small pool. My risk is that it is possible that we need three month to find our next block - and my fun will be if we found two blocks in one week...

PPLNS is real mining - with all it´s risk and fun - like the old guys in the wild west who search their OWN gold...

With PPS you only sell your power - like a poor miner in africa who is searching diamonds for OTHERS...

If your searching real gold and if you leave your mine before you found anything...Why schould others who find later some gold on the same place (Pool), but in another hole (Block) pay you?